[Trigger Warning for Violence and Domestic violence, especially in the Video which has a battered woman as the opening shot]
This summer Franklin López released a documentary film called End:Civ (The full documentary can be viewed here). The documentary is based on the book End Game by the environmental activist, Derrick Jensen, and each section of the film begins with Jensen talking about one of the selected premises from the book. López then illustrates the premise through interviews with environmental activists and news footage. End:Civ is worth watching and I think it is worth thinking about the destruction that industrial production entails. Both Jensen and López are anarchists (or so Wikipedia says, I don’t know whether they would accept that label). In any case, Jensen believes that civilization is not sustainable and should be destroyed.
In this post I will describe why Jensen’s over all conclusion, that we should return to a Stateless society (anarchy), is undermined by one of his specific arguments (sub-arguments) about the Structural Violence of civilization.
I want to take issue with one of Jensen’s arguments in the film that occurs at minute 26:48 of López’s film. (I have embeded a shorter YouTube video by someone other than López that just exerpts the particular argument I find troubling. My transcript is from López’s film, however, and might differ from what is embedded below. The argument occurs at minute 1:17 of the embedded video)
In this section of the film, Jensen is trying to convince the audience that civilization is built on violence and requires violence to be sustained. I agree that, much of what we buy involves horribly violent practices that are hidden from us. But the next part of his argument, when he talks about why we pay rent, undermines rather than supports an anarchist conclusion.
Jensen uses the example of paying rent:
Second I said, “Ok well do you pay rent?”
And he’s like, “Yeah.”
And I said, “Why?”
And he said, “Because I don’t own.”
And I said, “No, no, no, what would happen if you didn’t pay rent?”
And he said, “Well the sheriff would come and evict me.”
I said, “I don’t know what that means. What would happen?”
He said, “So the sheriff would come and he’d knock on my door.”
I said, “Ok great, what happens if you open the door? And you say, ‘Hey, I’m just finishing up making dinner, would you want some?’ And so the sheriff sits down and you feed him. You don’t poison him, and then, uh, after dinner you say, ‘Well, You know, you’ve been somewhat pleasant company, but not all that pleasant, so I would like for you to leave my home now.’ What would happen?”
He said, “Well the sheriff would pull out his gun and say, ‘I’m here to evict you because you didn’t pay rent.’”
I said, “Ah, so the reason you pay rent is because if you don’t some guy with a gun is going to come and take you away.”
He said, “I think I get it.”
This is classic Socratic method. Socrates would ask leading questions and then get the interlocutor to agree with each step until they both arrive at what seems to be an inevitable conclusion.
I am not a big fan of the Socratic method. I don’t think it involves thinking for one’s self. And I think that it obscures the steps that are made rather than making the argument’s steps evident to analysis.
In any case, Jensen slips here between asking about the reasons for doing x and asking about the consequences of not doing x. These two things are not always the same, but making the slip is essential to Jensen’s argument.
Personally, I pay rent, but the reason I do so is not mainly for fear of the consequences (eviction). The reason that I pay rent is because I made an agreement with my landlord that I would pay for the space he owns and in return he would not enter or otherwise use the space for as long as I live here.
Further, the consequences of not paying rent involve more than just the threat of eviction. I would also be upset with myself if I did not pay rent because I would then not be true to my word.
But this argument about the structural violence of civilization is only a sub-argument that is supposed to lead us to a larger conclusion. The larger conclusion Jensen wants us to arrive at ultimately is that we should return to a pre-civilization state where there is no State authority to act with force (an indigenist form of anarchy).
Jensen’s argument is self-defeating because the larger anarchist conclusion requires the kinds of reasons for paying rent that I provided (honouring one’s promises), yet his argument against civilization requires that the only reason to do something is fear of the consequences (violent enforcement of the laws).
Anarchy is an umbrella term that shelters a number of more specific political philosophies. But common to all is the idea that the State is illegitimate and undesirable and anarchists instead promotes a stateless society. For a stateless society to function, the individuals within it must have high moral standards, mutual responsibility, and must honour their agreements voluntarily. The idea of the State and the need for only one authorized agent of coercion arises precisely because of the fear that individuals would not honour their commitments unless there was some threat of undesirable consequences. If individuals were perfectly moral then there would be no need for State coercion.
In order for an anarchist society to function you need to believe that people act for reasons other than the fear of punishment. You need to believe that if the punitive threat were removed people would continue to cooperate. But in this section of Jensen’s argument, he tells us that people only act because of the fear of punishment. If this were true, then the last thing we should do would be to eliminate the State and it’s authorized coercive mechanisms (the police and prison).
If it is true that people only pay rent because of the fear of violent eviction (rather than because they want to honour the agreements that they make), then a Stateless society would not function because such a society would have no coercive mechanism and no one would honour their agreements to cooperate. One cannot consistently believe both that persons only act for fear of punishment and that we should remove punitive mechanisms in order to achieve a more ideal form of communal living.


Well, Nozick for one is an anarchist and thinks there is no way to NOT have a police force in an anarchist non-state/minimal state, so I’m not sure it’s necessarily to not wanting threats of violence systemized in an anarchist state. Although, if that is not the case, then Derrick has arrived at them from a weird angle.
Nozick discusses the necessity of police in an anarchist non-state in “anarchy, state and utopia”.
Note that:
1. Jensen isn’t an anarchist.
2. He is NOT arguing against the state or a stateless society per se.
3. He IS building a case against Civilization on grounds of its destructiveness and abusive ways: commodification of the living (destruction of nature/ relationships) in to the dead (into merchandise/into services) and its non sustainability (food production based on oil)
you enter into an agreement to pay rent under duress, whether you believe that is so or not. if you didnt agree t pay rent, where would you be? not to mention the whole fallacy of the land-owner/lessee relationship
Certainly what you say is true. Rental arrangements are not fair arrangements. I also think that private property is not justified. But I am not arguing above that renting is fair. I am merely pointing out that if we wanted to get rid of police, then the argument that people keep their agreements mainly (or only) for fear of police punishment is not an argument that leads to the conclusion that we should get rid of police. I am not making an argument about his over-all conclusions, or about any of his other arguments.
strawman. worst article ever. what happened to authentic critical thinking? hey author, read ENDGAME, then write something.
The argument that paying rent is a fair agreement is flawed, because that would assume both parties have equal needs to be met and have equal power to shape the agreement. The landlord has a surplus of shelter in which he or she does not need, but instead of sharing that surplus with those in need the landlord creates an artificial scarcity by colluding with the state to make renting the only form of shelter. The landlord also colludes with the state to see that the contract is biased in his favor. The renter who needs shelter has no or little power to negotiate the contract, because the land lord can easily find other renters. The Renter can refuse the contract, but all renters contract are likely to be similar. The renter does not enter the contract, because he or she has believes it is fair and reasonable, the renter enters the contract, because the alternative is worse homelessness. Most anarchist, even those that believe in free market and free contract don’t support the idea of rent, because it is not a service it is a position of privilege.
I agree that an argument that said paying rent is fair might be a flawed argument. That is not the argument I am making, however.
My argument is simply that there are other reasons that people pay rent, besides the fear of police involvement. Indeed, these other reasons are necessary to any system that would want to be rid of the police.
I’m not a genius or a master of rhetoric or Socratic dialogue. I agree that’s Jensen’s arguments are not perfect. The larger question that needs addressing is the idea, concept, practice of land ownership in itself moral?
Is the idea of property not a perpetration of theft, separating and objectifying an tree into an object. The tree, land and house belong to who? Is ownership a morally viable concept when it is used to (as an ex landlord) exploit the poor renter who by definition cannot buy and have that person pay off my mortgage while i write off all expenses, stays in hotels, go to plays and dinners on my way to view MY PROPERTY ?
I grew up in 3 chord bands and 20 word lyrics, that do not do the world justice, but the very concept of justice and personal property obviates the fact that we are ignoring the land as inherently self owned, and any might ideally be in a non exploitative, non violent context. That equally shares the resources available regardless of any so called social or power status.
Is this a fundamentally challenging idea? absolutely It asks us to treat each other as we would treat ourselves or better (for the self violent).
Ultimately we are doomed and will choke ourselves to death while we drink our sewage and eat poisen. Welcome to the apocalypse ! “How do you want to go? with your hands on your head ? or waiting on death row. . .”
Paul Simanon, The Clash, guns of Brixton
Hi wedemay, thanks for your thoughtful comment. I agree that there is a lot of value in Jensen’s arguments. Particularly his comments on the environment and questions about private property are well-argued. My purpose in writing this post was not to undermine Jensen’s over-all message. Instead, I just wanted to point out how this one argument is somewhat self-defeating. I am a philosopher and we often try to help people improve their over-all argument by pointing to specific weaknesses that could be improved. Again, thanks for the thoughts.
Im baffled that people think land ownership is so wrong. In fact proper land management and a piece of land for everyone would solve many of the worlds ills.
guess what? If there is no law that says XYZ land is mine, well this doesnt matter. Like a mountain lion I will roam my desired area. Except this time when you see the trees I happen to like to gather my nuts from and sleep under them fat on the nuts…. im going to sneak up while you sleep and cut your throat. why? because life is a fight for survival friend. If I dont protect those nuts my kids go hungry… just like if we were mountain lions and another mountain lion was tracking rabbits in the area i liked to hang out in.
the world some long for is a bizarre abberation of thought. Id love to rip apart each and every piece of it, because it is actually rather childish, dangerous and silly.
there is no doubt humanity is on a terrible path. Look at the third world though… you think lawlessness would help? Or 5 acres per family? really think about it. 5 acres they didnt have to fight to keep. Five acres and the knowledge to tend it well. If we truly tended the land well by default we would have not only a sustainable ulture and less need to try to force our wills onto others but we would be in closer balance with the rest of life.
sad part is i agree with most of jensens premises. The guy is kinda like a spoiled child.
Guess what? you rip down society, what happens? will we all revert to hunter gatherers? Or some peaceful agrarian lifestyle? If you believe this you REALLY have some issues. Instead youd have 10,000 groups form, those that are the most violent having the most influence in time crushing the peaceful folks. It would be the darkages all over again except with AK47s and shotguns. slavery would arise like never before.
We are ANIMALS. animals know only that struggle for life. It is eat or be eaten in the jungle. which explains clearly why society is so overcast with the same premise… what we ACTUALLY need isnt to erase society.. Its to evolve it. We can do better. first way to do that is to realize we need to stop forcing our will onto others. Its a root cause of many of our issues. Lay down a handful of unniversal rules to ensureno one is upsetting the over all balance of life or infringing others liberty… If we ever got that far, and each person had a bit of earth to call there own…. not much others do would really matter…
I don’t see how Derrick Jensen said people only honor agreements because of fear because he brings up rent. I liked where this article was going until then. However, I do see where you could go with this but I am not the writer! To say that a landlord/renter relationship is always one of duress is just not deep enough. I will say Derrick Jensen’s writing is now causing more discord than harmony. It used to have some medicine to it and now its just all the horrible facts and it’s like he is traumatizing us with his writing. There is so much he doesn’t account for, The idea that a few people will actually get the sand to destroy the infrastructure of civilization and then die off needs the good anarcho primitivists to survive. How in the world can you believe this will happen? Its so simplistic. It is internal backlash.
HI Noone,
It is not just that he brings up rent. It is because he says the reason people pay rent is because if they don’t a police officer will evict them. This means that the reason people pay rent is because of fear of the consequences (police violence) rather than for some other reason, such as honouring one’s commitments.
What would you say about the landlord/renter relationship? What would be deeper?
Thanks for the comment!
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